Is This Why Some People Don’t Get Results With The Apple Patch Diet?
Wed, Aug 27, 2008
Last year I wrote a post about the apple patch diet.
Whilst I personally don’t like multi level marketing, I was actually quite impressed with the product.
One year on and there are still very few negative comments to be found online about the apple patch diet.
In fact, there were only 4 minor issues raised with the BBB and all had been resolved.
However, just in case anyone has bought the patch and failed to lose weight, here is a single graphical tip that shows where you may be going wrong -
That’s right - you’re meant to put the patch on yourself, not an apple dummy!
So, one year on, and this anti-mlm’er still likes the apple patch diet.
Maybe the pro-mlm’ers will think there’s hope for me yet!
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Nope, your well beyond help I think.
You’re probably right!
I do have to say that I like your humor though.
Thanks
Surely you are pulling our legs? I cannot believe you could be positive about any mlm. Are you feeling ok?
I’m extremely tired but otherwise ok, thanks.
OK. So I read the whole mess about apple patch diet whatever. Are you really for it? I do think there are ways to market it effectively. That’s about all though.
There certainly are ways to market the apple patch diet without having to engage in any type of network marketing, and that’s why I like it!
Now add a circle with a backward slash line directly onto the patch. You’re got an instant visual for the anti-patch impaired. A purely transdermal patch (of apple) that claims weight loss? Effective marketing strategy? Continue to claim the apple clean of any ill-effects via celluar osmosis. Stay off any future BBB listing would be helpful too. Are you just intrigued by the gimmick (name) of this one maybe?
“transdermal patch”
“cellular osmosis”
Boy do I wish I’d paid attention at school so I could understand..
A transdermal patch is the application. An adhesive patch appied to the skin for (medicinal) absorption into the bloodstream. What’s being absorbed into the skin has to cross the cell membrane and that’s done through osmosis of the cell. The claim in losing weight here is the absorpion of apple that comes from the applied patch. Weight comes off. A good marketing strategy is to be able to claim that the patch isn’t causing any prolems because of the absorption of the apple. Ugh, too tecnical.
Yep. You’re right. Too technical for my male brain!
Back to my question. Are you just intrigued by the gimmick (name) of this particular one maybe? Rationale for liking the apple patch diet?
I haven’t used the apple patch (I don’t think it’s available in the UK) but I do have friends who use a product which sounds pretty well identical and they have seen results.
Obviously, the apple patch may be different, but I’m willing to give the product the benefit of the doubt.
When I read about the mlms I write about I often find a lot of horror stories associated with them. In this case, there is very little negative comment to be found.
The few odd issues at the BBB have all been resolved.
Therefore, whilst I don’t have enough information to say ‘this is wonderful’, I am inclined to say that ‘it isn’t bad’.
The main complaint on the other post was people weren’t getting any traffic to their apple patch website. But they wouldn’t. Search engines don’t pick them up just like they don’t pick up our Mary Kay sites. The way to drive traffic is to have your own site (a blog for example) and use the MK approved linking policy from your site to your MK site. People find YOU in the searches.
As far as this apple patch thing actually working legitimately; I’m a cynic. But to each his own. I just know there are effective marketing methods for those who choose to get involved.
I agree about search engine traffic for apple patch and MK - the problem is they are all very much of a muchness - each distributor has an almost completely identical site.
Google, the bringer of traffic, hates duplicate content, hence many of them won’t get indexed or ranked very well.
Oh, and I may never see a single sale from my personal website through my blog, but that is OK. MK is not an internet business. It works best for me when I talk to people face to face. The website is a convenience for customers who don’t live in the same vicinity as their consultants. JMO. I think it’s great because my customer base is pretty spread out.
My blog is more for me to stay on task and stay accountable. And it’s working! I’ve been more consistent this past month than I have been my entire 5 years in business! Ha!
I do think internet marketing would work for those involved with something like the apple patch. Just based on reading the info on the other post I arrived at that conclusion.
With MK is it viable to sell at a distance? Can you pay shipping and make a profit, or charge shipping to the customer? Do the ‘rules’ allow you to do that?
It is viable. The company just added free shipping option to our personal websites. So I don’t have to physically mail the orders that are out of my area anymore. My customer can order and pay online and choose the shipping option and MKC will ship directly to them. It counts toward my production even though I didn’t have to order it and have it shipped to me first. We have no territories in MK so we can have customers all over the U.S. I have customers in PA, MI, OR, and CA.
The one thing I don’t understand though is why would someone buy through your MK site when they could go direct to MK themselves?
Are your web buyers people you already know or do you get random searchers making purchases?
They can’t buy from MK directly. The only way to do that is to sign a beauty consultant agreement. ;)Otherwise, they have to go through a consultant. My customers are established, however, I do get occasional new customers who search the Mary Kay website for a new consultant.
Marykay.com has a consultant locator. The customer types in her zip code and it randomly pulls up a consultant’s website. The activity of the consultant puts her in the pool. All of the people who found me through the locator called me first. Then they ordered.
You must have hypnotised them with your sexy voice!
LOL! Actually, they were already on the product. Their consultants had quit or moved away and lost touch.
Does your web page ever get traffic from the search engines?
My Mary Kay website? I have no idea. I think only MKC can track that. I highly doubt it. I don’t have it registered with any search engines. I could do that if I wanted to, but chances are, there are hundreds or thousands of other consultants registered so the point would be moot.
My business works best when I meet people in person and have them try the products. They like it and they buy it. When I bring them to my guest events they want to sign up. No persuasion is involved. We have a question and answer session at the end of the makeover. I’m always amazed at how many in depth questions my guests have! I had 3 guests last week and two of them want to become consultants. I had 3 guests again this week and one is now a consultant and another one seems to be interested. My intention is never to recruit recruit recruit, but of course if someone has a genuine interest in joining my team I am not going to deter her.
Anyway, back to websites, I don’t consider Mary Kay to be an internet business. It’s a social business. At least it is for me.
If it’s not an internet business then what is the purpose of your MK blog?
I started it because I got sick of all the negative stuff a search for Mary Kay online was bringing up. I wanted to put something positive out there. Then, as it grew, I wanted more freedom to try posting ads and such and couldn’t do that with wordpress.com, plus, wordpress.com was threatening to terminate my blog for being too business promotional or something. So, I started looking into stand alone hosting. I asked my brother if he knew anything about it and he offered to just design my new site.
Now, my purpose is to provide information, experience, and share what I learn to other consultants who may not get the information I do from my upline. I am in a good group of women, I think.
Finally, it is a vehicle for me to meet other consultants, directors, etc. who are where I want to be and having readers keeps me accountable. It has kept me on track with my goals more than anything I’ve tried in the past.
Take my sales goal, for instance. I’m not close to it at all, but do you know what I’ve done? I’ve gotten over my fears of talking to new people and calling new people. I’ve managed to bring more guests to my meeting and I have signed two new team members this summer and I have about five more interested. Eventually, I will refer my customers to the blog (I already do) and will start a newsletter and see what that does. The blog is an experiment, but at the same time it is a tool for me.
I read The Renegade Network Marketer by Ann Sieg. Have you heard of it? I have the affiliate links on my blog site. It has good information, but I honestly don’t think it is relevant to Mary Kay. I think some of it is very useful info regarding marketing and advertising. Overall, it is for a different kind of home based business. Not sure if that makes sense.
Yeah that does all make sense.
I’ve heard of The Renegade Network Marketer but didn’t realise there was an affiliate scheme related to it - you’ll have to let me know how that works
I already had a good idea of what I thought you’d be using your site for but was wondering if you saw it that way too, or just as a diversion to kill a bit of time and have some fun with.
Building relationships with your customers, via your own blog, is definitely a good business tactic.
Well, here’s a secret: I got The Renegade Network Marketer 1/2 price. Honestly, I don’t feel that it is worth the full price (at least not to me because I already kind of knew the info and my upline do teach most of the ideas in there). Half price I could live with. Some of the info is very good. A lot of it is common sense, but common sense seems to be a dying breed these days.
Anyway, I have it posted on my site, but I could care less if anyone buys it or not. For someone who has no clue about marketing, it is a good buy. I do like Ann Sieg and her philosophy. Don’t get me wrong. It just wasn’t information that was completely foreign and unheard of to me. There are people out there who do need the info in the book.
It’s an ebook isn’t it?
Yes, it’s an ebook, podcast, and you get some other bonuses when you purchase it. The full price is over $60. I signed up for Ann Sieg’s free newsletter. Eventually, I got an offer to buy the ebook for half price. I was very curious to see what it had to say and I decided I could part with $30 on a disappointment. Fortunately, the information is quite good, but if you already have some marketing background and have upline (in the case of MK) who have a business background, you might not see the full value of the ebook. I don’t know if that makes sense.
Someone who had no clue about marketing themselves and incorporating their business might feel that this book is priceless; especially if it leads to them act in such a way that it brings results. Someone like me can appreciate the info, but I was already on the right track. It did kind of clarify some things I was already wondering.
I was doing MLM the old way for 7 years before I ran into the Renegade Network Marketer in Dec 2007.
After 8 months, Renegade Network Marketer totally changed the nature of my prospecting:- from cold calling and harassing friends, to attract warm qualified leads to my business. It is one of the best things that ever happened to my business
Willy Lim
The Financially Free Advisor
InterNETwork Marketing in Asia